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Hello and welcome, everyone, to our team’s latest effort in proving and solidifying the existence of High 1-A Godzilla. Following our unsuccessful attempt at establishing 1-A+ in our previous CRT, I alongside Yayady, with additional insights drawn from past contributors such as Arceus0x, CitrusReality, and many others firmly believe we have now uncovered concrete evidence supporting High 1-A Godzilla Singular Point. So, without further ado, we present to you…

Godzilla Singular Point High 1-A Upgrade Part Two

To put it simply, this blog aims to justify and clarify the confusion surrounding this wiki’s issues with the cycle of dreams, while firmly establishing that Ultima’s acausal nature and slow, methodical transcendence are fundamentally different (Mostly hinging on differentiating between Prologue IT and Plot IT). In doing so, it directly addresses and resolves the site’s doubts regarding a beyond 1-A interpretation of Ultima.

Cycle of Dreams Clarifications

So starting our first passage:

《それ》は、過去の夢を見ており、過去において未来の夢を見ており、過去において未来の夢を見るという夢を未来において見続けていた。《それ》にとって現在と呼ぶことができるものがあったとしたなら、過去と未来が好き放題に絡み合って可能性の限りを尽くした、あらゆる夢の集合体というのが最も近い。

《それ》は夢から醒さめる夢から醒め、またその夢から醒める夢を見ていた。夢の中で夢を見てまた夢見ていた。どこまでいってもその繰り返しに果てはなく、《それ》が見ているものは決して醒めることのできない夢で、誰も入り込むことのできない夢とも言えた。

"It" was dreaming of the past, dreaming of the future in the past, and continued dreaming of dreaming of the future in the past into the future. If there was something that "it" could call the present, it would be closest to a collective of every possible dream where the past and future intertwined freely to their fullest potential.

"It" was waking from a dream of waking from a dream and then dreaming of waking from that dream. Dreaming within a dream, and then dreaming again. No matter how far it went, there was no end to this repetition, and what "it" was seeing could be said to be an unending dream from which it could never wake, a dream into which no one could intrude.

This passage clearly establishes a nested dream structure. Initially, Arceus attempted to use this to argue for an infinite hierarchy of R>F layers citing the recurring motif of dreams within dreams and elevate the interpretation to 1-A+. However, we were unable to demonstrate clear hierarchical superiority between the dreams, nor explain why they encompassed both past and future, rather than functioning as intertwined possibilities within a single universe. Lacking sufficient substantiation, the upgrade failed

Recognizing this oversight, we revisited the text with greater scrutiny. Through deeper analysis, we ultimately identified the proper basis for a truly transcendent dream hierarchy. Much of which lies in the distinction lies within how Ultima perceive time and how timeline operates for him:

過去から未来を縦断しているゴジラが未来において

Godzilla, who traverses from the past to the future, in the future

小さなものを積み上げて、大きなものを形成する。

無駄なものをつくって捨てる。

梯子を使って登った後はそれを忘れる。

《それ》には目標地点へと至る数多の経路が見通せた。

手堅く太い道があり、危うく素早いやり方があった。

海から上がった姿をもとに、ゆっくりと姿を変えていく方法があり、劇的に違うものへ転換する方法があった。一旦は小さく分かれるという戦略があり、ゆっくり大きくのびやかに育つ方策があった。

《それ》の前にはあらゆる可能性が拓けていた。

《それ》が注意を向けさえすれば、あまりに明確な未来と過去が今を起点に展開し、それら全てが今と変わらぬ堅固さを帯びた。

Stacking small things to form something big. Creating and discarding useless things. Forgetting the ladder after climbing up.

"It" could see countless paths leading to the target point. There was a solid and broad way, and a risky and swift method. There was a way to slowly transform based on the form that emerged from the sea, and a way to drastically convert into something different. There was a strategy to temporarily divide into smaller parts, and a plan to grow slowly and expansively.

Before "it," all possibilities were open.

If "it" merely focused its attention, an extremely clear future and past unfolded from the present, and all of them possessed the same solidity as the present.

Here we see a detailed depiction of how Ultima perceives time, multiple, branching and unending choices rather than a single, fixed fate, operating as a being of independent causality. This is consistent with how Ultima is understood throughout the narrative. And it is here that the distinction of the dream hierarchy in the prologue lies, addressing most of the complaints this wiki raises, that it is nothing more than a recollection of Ultima’s memories within a single universe.

Which is pointed again within the Prologue:

《それ》は自分のはじまりを終わりを、終わりのはじまりをはじまりの終わりを終わりの終わりをはじまりのはじまりを知ってはいたが、そうした始点や終点さえ、自らを構成する凡庸な 構成要素にすぎず、なんら特別な記憶や夢や知識とはみなしていなかった。

どの繰り返しの流れにも同じものはひとつとしてなく、流れの中のほんのわずかな揺らぎが夢を記憶を全く予期もしない方角へと導いていく。現実は記憶であって、記憶は現実と変わるところが何もなかった。

It knew its own beginning and end, the end of the beginning, the beginning of the end, and even the end of the end and the beginning of the beginning, but regarded these starting and ending points as mere mundane components of its composition, not as any special memory, dream, or knowledge.

There was not a single repetition of flow that was identical, and slight fluctuations within the flow led dreams and memories in entirely unforeseen directions. Reality was memory, and memory was no different from reality.

For IT, dreams function simultaneously as memory and reality, constituent parts of its being formed from events it has already experienced and created. Ultima operates on a similar principle: Once a future is anchored, alterations to the past cannot change the outcome, as even the laws of nature must yield. The Red Dust exhibits this same property. Enjoe’s work consistently reflects a deterministic framework, shared across nearly all of his characters. Within this context, ‘awakening’ refers to tearing the Omega Point and Ultima’s ongoing process of conflict, growth and transcendence as it evolves toward IT. Each tearing represents progression to a higher dream layer.

Atp, one must prove that the cycle of dreams is is just an eternal process of Ultima tearing apart the Omega Point endlessly. Which can be find subtly in the Novel.

The Omega Point

Firstly,  we know the Singular Point is defined as a hole outside spacetime, a key basis for Ultima’s R>F nature. While initially misunderstood as referring only to 3D spacetime, it actually encompasses the totality of spacetime, including infinite and higher-dimensional structures, thus supporting IT’s 1-A classification. However, the Omega Point is still composed of spacetime itself and thus remains L1-A, and it is not Ultima’s ultimate evolutionary endpoint.

However this the context of the passage is much more significant with well... you guest it TRANSLATION!

そこにひとつの終幕があり、東京のゴジラは次元のあちら側へと成長し、この特異点さえ引き裂くだろう。

There lies an end, where the Godzilla of Tokyo will grow beyond dimensions and even tear this singularity apart.

This indicates Ultima will continue growing and eventually surpass the Omega Point. Since the Omega Point embodies all of spacetime and the Singular Point functions as a “hole” in reality, tearing it is like breaking through a TV screen to reach the world beyond a true qualitative leap. While some argue this only means access to higher dimensions, the Japanese phrase 次元のあちら側 (“on the other side of the dimension”) supports transcendence: 側 can mean “realm” or “direction,” including inside vs outside, and あちら implies something beyond. Therefore, ゴジラは次元のあちら側へと成長し signifies Ultima growing toward the boundary of all dimensions, ultimately transcending them. A reading impossible with phrasing like 次元の側 or より高い次元.

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This translation of Ultima surpassing and transcending all dimensional boundaries, while losing against non-existent parameters, aligns with and reinforces the nature of the failures Ultima experiences.

そこでは、ゴジラは存在しないやり方で倒されたのだということだってありうる。

It's possible that Godzilla was defeated in a way that doesn't exist there.

《それ》は幾度も打ち倒され、叩きのめされ、立ちはだかるものを打ち倒し、叩きのめし、圧倒してきたが、それすらも、《それ》にとってはほとんどどうでもよい事柄だった。《それ》は何度でも似たような相手とまみえ、何度でも新たな相手と出会い、何度でも戦いを繰り返し、自らが完全に勝利するまで、勝利してからのちも、永遠に闘争を繰り返していた。

"It" had been knocked down and beaten many times, had knocked down and overwhelmed its obstacles, but even that was a matter of little consequence to "it." "It" had faced similar opponents over and over, encountered new opponents countless times, and repeatedly fought again and again, continuing its struggle eternally until it achieved complete victory, and even after that victory.

By the end of the narrative, Ultima is described as being capable of becoming anything in the most literal sense, logically allowing him to adapt to any countermeasures unless that countermeasure exists beyond the boundaries of the universe’s spacetime.

It is no longer possible to make any predictions regarding this question, and it can be said that at this point Godzilla has reached a state where he can become anything.

Regarding this question, it has become difficult to make any predictions, and it can be said  that,  at this point, Godzilla has reached a state where it can become anything.

This was not the first time something like this had happened; it had happened several times before, and each time, "it" had defeated the opponent and dispelled the fog that was spreading into the future.

This situation is not the first time; it has been experienced several times before, and each time "it" has struck down the opponent and cleared away the fog that spreads into the future.

Implying that anything capable of defeating Ultima must originate from outside spacetime; if it existed within spacetime, it would be observable, and Perro 3 would not have called it a ‘non-existent way.’ According to the prologue, Ultima ultimately overcomes such failures, transcending external interference, a transcendence of transcendence. Given its nature, these failures likely originate from higher layers because where else could it originate from?

Ultima and Spacetime

The second complaint this wiki raises is that Ultima requires spacetime to evolve, when in that is entirely mistaken. Judging from the passages presented, the evidence overwhelmingly suggests the opposite:

There will be an ending there, and Tokyo's Godzilla will grow to the other side of the dimension, tearing even this singularity apart.

There is an ending there, and Godzilla of Tokyo will grow to the other side of the dimension and tear apart even this singularity.

He has even defeated his own defeat, and destroyed everything in

I have defeated even my own defeats and destroyed all worlds where I would be defeated.

Neither statement implies that anything within the universe contributed to Ultima’s growth. Instead, they indicate that the universe itself could not withstand that growth and ultimately collapsed under its own limitations. The second sentence further shows that Ultima’s relationship with the universe is destructive, not utilitarian. While it requires spacetime as a vessel in this world, it primarily manipulates and distorts it, existing above it. A resemblance that can be made with how Beyonder's presence distorts time and space when manifesting his lower version into the Marvel Universe.

《それ》は地球表面の五分の一ほどの領域へすでに腕を伸ばしていた。《それ》は地球を網で包み込むような姿で、地球を含む近傍宇宙へと、今も浮上しつつあった。こことは異なる次元へ腕を伸ばして、その領域を拡大していた。

その歪みは時間方向へも及び、特異点の周囲にはＣＴＣが形成されている。クローＣズド・タイムラＴイク・カーＣブ、いわゆる「時間的閉曲線」は、時空間内に描かれ、閉じられた輪だ。てっとりばやくタイムマシンと言ってしまって構わない。未来へ行って、また起点へと戻ってくる。

そんな種類の「歪み」が時空間に生じるならば、周囲には絶大な影響が及ぶはずなのだが、現実問題としては十メートルも距離をとれば影響はほんの小さなものとなる。重力の異常はすぐに観測されなくなり、電磁波の放射もささやかなものだ。そのあたりが、研究所内で、シヴァは「物理法則を破り」、「破り方さえ破る」と言われる所以である。つまりは未知の物理現象が極めて狭い範囲に集中し、封じ込められている格好である。

"It" had already extended its reach to about one-fifth of the Earth's surface. In a form that enveloped the Earth with a net, "it" was still rising toward the nearby cosmos, including the Earth.

It was extending its arm to a different dimension, expanding its domain. The distortion also extended in the time direction, with a CTC forming around the singularity. A Closed Timelike Curve, or a so-called "closed time loop," is a closed loop depicted within spacetime. You might as well call it a time machine, it goes to the future and then returns to the starting point. If such a kind of "distortion" were to occur in spacetime, it would possibly have an impact on the surroundings, but in practical terms, even at a distance of ten meters, the impact becomes quite small.

The gravitational anomalies soon become unobservable, and the electromagnetic radiation is minor. This is why, within the research facility, Shiva is said to "break the laws of physics" and even "break the way they are broken." In other words, unknown physical phenomena are extremely concentrated and contained in a narrow area.

These passages further illustrate the point where spacetime holds no real consequence for Ultima and exists merely as collateral damage from its growth.

自然の中で真性のパラドックスが引き起こされた場合に何が起こるのかは誰も知らない。未だ、自然がそんな事態に見舞われたことがないからである。ただ一度、宇宙誕生の瞬間にはそんなことがあったかもしれない、とは言われる。

問題となるのは「超自然現象から生み出されるパラドックス」で、このパラドックスが自然にやさしいものであるかどうかは、全くなんの保障もない。なぜなら、そのパラドックスは自然由来のものではないからで、自然が滅びようと宇宙の法則がねじ曲がろうと何も感じず、気にしないという可能性があるからである。

No one knows what might happen if a true paradox arises in nature, as nature has never encountered such a situation. It is said that such an occurrence might have happened just once, at the moment of the universe's birth.

The issue at hand is the "paradox produced by supernatural phenomena," and there is absolutely no guarantee that this paradox will be kind to nature. This is because the paradox does not originate from nature, and there is the possibility that it does not feel or care even if nature were to perish or the laws of the universe were to be twisted.

Tho it does mentioned mention an energy source:

力の流れの源についてはわからない。起源を求めて遡ったこともあるのだが、その流れは絶えることなく淀むことなく、河のようにただひたすらに流れ続けていた。

《それ》にとって、数多あまたの支流は自らの体の一部にすぎなかったが、支流の方ではまた違った考え方があるようだった。ときに支流は、自らが本流なのだと勘違いして本流に挑みかかるのだったが、支流には飢えがあって渇きがあった。

I do not know the source of the flow of power. I have tried tracing it back to its origin, but the flow continued without ceasing or stagnating, relentlessly flowing like a river. 

To "it," the myriad tributaries were merely parts of its own body, but it seemed the tributaries had a different perspective. At times, the tributaries mistakenly believed they were the main stream and challenged it, yet the tributaries were both hungry and thirsty.

A power he doesn't know and also originate from outside the universe.

《それ》は何かの流れであったが、どこかの宇宙に属する種類の流れではなかった。

"It" was a kind of flow, but not the type that belongs to any universe.

Combined with the fact that Ultima’s essence exists outside the universe and that the Singular Point is a literal hole in spacetime, a clearer picture emerges. Ultima is not merely a higher-dimensional being within the system but a 1-A existence drawing on trans-cosmic resources, with growth explicitly tied to IT’s power. This framework shows Ultima undergoing continuous growth and repeated awakenings, each ascent reaching higher layers and ultimately approaching a reality beyond the dream structure. From this perspective, the infinite recursive hierarchy of dreams can reasonably be classified as 1-A+, while IT, as the dormant yet foundational entity, transcends and encompasses the entire collection of dreams.

それ》にとって現在と呼ぶことができるものがあったとしたなら、過去と未来が好き放題に絡み合って可能性の限りを尽くした、あらゆる夢の集合体というのが最も近い。

If there is something that can be called the present for "it," it would be closest to a collection of all dreams, where the past and future intertwine freely, exploring every possibility to the fullest.

それ》は夢から醒さめる夢から醒め、またその夢から醒める夢を見ていた。夢の中で夢を見てまた夢見ていた。どこまでいってもその繰り返しに果てはなく、《それ》が見ているものは決して醒めることのできない夢で、誰も入り込むことのできない夢とも言えた。

"It" was dreaming of waking up from a dream, waking up again from that dream, and so on. In the dream, it was dreaming and dreaming again. No matter how far it went, this repetition had no end, and what "it" was seeing could be said to be a dream from which one could never wake, and also a dream into which no one could enter.

So here we see the anchor of Ultima’s existence: the Final Dreamer, which marks Ultima’s ultimate state and drives its avatar to relentlessly ascend through an infinite chain of transcendence. As established earlier, Ultima’s existence hinges upon this Final Dreamer, which represents, if not outright exists as the physical manifestation of Final IT’s consciousness.

Final Tally:

Godzilla from the plot would be High 1-B to Low 1-A, inhabiting and could reach the same level of a Singular Point using our last interpretation.

Transcending the Omega Point would be 1-A

As the dream within dreams indicates, this process is infinite which would make Godzilla 1-A+

The Final IT is a dreamer who exists across all level planes of existence, existing beyond even the cycle of dreams and acts as a natural anchor to Ultima's existence would warrant him High 1-A